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Joe Lewis was a student and was wounded at Kent State.

Interviewed by email on March 17, 2008 

Q. Was the ROTC building active for Kent State?

A. Yes, the ROTC program was active at KSU in 1970. New officers were required for the continuing war in Vietnam as well as other assignments.

Q. What do you know about the Kent State shootings?

A. As an eye witness I know what  I saw and experienced.  There was no need to fire, no threat to the safety of the guardsmen, and no students near them. They turned in unison and began firing without warning of any kind or provocation as if there was an order or previous agreement to shoot.

Q. How did you become interested in this shootings?

A. I was deliberately shot twice by two men who admitted it.

Q. Why do you think the national guards shot into the protest?

A. My belief is that the Nixon administration wanted a show of force to stop dissent in America, and used this shooting to send a message to other dissenters through communication with Governor Rhodes and Mayor Satrom.

Q. Where were you during the shootings?

A. I was 65 feet in front of the line of guardsmen, silent and  motionless, and when they aimed at me, I gave ‘em the finger.

Q. How did the Kent State shootings change your life?

A. I nearly died and became radicalized forever, distrusting the government and all authority. I did however marry one of our paralegals from the civil trial and we had a son, Chris.

Q. How do you feel about how Kent State is treated in history today?

A. The attitude is changing and continues to lend more support to our point of view.  The crimes of the Bush administration exceed those of the Nixon administration and so there is something to compare to.

Q. With the war in Iraq going on, do you think the students today are involved as they were back then?

A. Not without the draft. It was a vocal minority then too. 

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