May 4th Shootings at Kent State

Interview with Dr. Carole Barbato

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Dr. Carole Barbato, is a Professor at Kent State.

Interviewed by phone on February 5, 2008

 
Q. Was the ROTC building active for Kent State?

A. The ROTC building was very active. It was a long and old barrack. It was scheduled to be demolished in the summer. It was used to store rifles for the ROTC students to use.

Q. What do you know about the Kent State shootings?

A. I wasn't an eyewitness. I was a student in 1970. The rally was called for on Friday May 1st but got postponed until Monday, May 4th. There were 3 groups of National Guards. There was Troop G, Company C and Company A. At 12.00 the rally was held on the Kent State Campus. The rally started out peacefully, until they started shooting tear gas into the crowd. I found out a lot from talking to different people who were eyewitnesses. Now I teach a course called "May 4th Aftermath at Kent State".

Q. How did you become interested in this shootings?

A. I was a student at Kent State at the time of the shooting. I knew William and Sandy who were both shot and killed. I knew Sandy since I was five years old. She was on her way to class when she got shot. William was an ROTC Cadet; some people thought he was a Communist. Before I became a teacher I knew two professors who taught the same course that I teach today.

Q. Why do you think the National Guard shot into the protest?

A. The theory is because the students were young and inexperienced. My opinion is from talking to General Cornell, who was the General for the National Guard, the National Guardsmen were very experienced. Many who shot were older who knew that they were doing. Alan found a tape at Yale library that said "We shot because we were ordered to."

Q. Where were you during the shootings?

A. I was actually at my house which was four blocks away from Kent State. In one of my classes before the rally our Professor begged us not to go to the rally.

Q. How do you feel about how Kent State is treated in history today?

A. Well, I think it is a tribute to your teacher for having you pick this topic for your History Day project. It shows how the shootings have not been forgotten.

Q. With the war in Iraq going on, do you think the students today are as involved as they were back then?

A. I felt like kids during 1970 were passionate about the war. We had a draft back then that made every eligible male part of the protest. Today, there is no draft.

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